CINDY SHEEHAN CALLS FOR U.S TO 'PULL OUR TROOPS OUT OF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS'Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans. "I don't care if a human being is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. I donÕt care if a human being is Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or pagan. I don't care what flag a person salutes: if a human being is hungry, then it is up to another human being to feed him/her. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. The only way America will become more secure is if we have a new administration that cares about Americans even if they donÕt fall into the top two percent of the wealthiest."Sheehan is in the middle of a bus trip across America in support of her cause. Developing...
Saturday, September 17, 2005
The Nutjob Speaks Again!
CINDY SHEEHAN CALLS FOR U.S TO 'PULL OUR TROOPS OUT OF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS'Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans. "I don't care if a human being is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. I donÕt care if a human being is Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or pagan. I don't care what flag a person salutes: if a human being is hungry, then it is up to another human being to feed him/her. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. The only way America will become more secure is if we have a new administration that cares about Americans even if they donÕt fall into the top two percent of the wealthiest."Sheehan is in the middle of a bus trip across America in support of her cause. Developing...
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If you don't like hearing it from Cindy Sheehan, try hearing it from Martin Luther King. They did exactly the same thing to him when he said exactly the same things as Cindy Sheehan.
Here's his Beyond Vietnam speech.
There's a big gap between a man of Doctor King's stature and the droning buzz of momma Sheehan's carefully scripted liberal rants. It's helpful to remember the difference between the two. On one hand you have a man of peace seeking equal opportunity for all, and a screeching, Israel hating moonbat like Sheehan.
There's also a difference in the support base of the two.
I'm sure you know the many charitable and religious organizations behind Doctor King's movement, so I will not list them here. But, have a look at only some of the supporters and doners behind this terrorist and Palestinian lover:
(This list doesn't include many of the anarchists and other nutty leftwing fringe groups she will have at the United for Peace and Justice group marches on Washington on September 24th.)
1. Their bills are being paid by True Majority, a non-profit set up by Ben Cohen, of Ben and Jerry's ice cream fame.
2. Cohen's liberal group has teamed up with Berkeley-based moveon.org, an anti-Bush group co-founded by Joan Blades.
3. Earlier this month, MoveOn.org helped organize anti-war vigils in support of Cindy Sheehan.
4. Current Democratic National Party chair Howard Dean's organization, Democracy for America, is also involved.
5. As is the more radical anti-war group Code Pink, organized by San Francisco's Medea Benjamin.
The flaw with "Mr. anonymous" and his argument is the belief and values of King and Shee-thing don't mesh. Frankly, I find it sickening the two could be mentioned in the same sentence.
Allowing herself to be placed on a pedestal by mental deficient nut cases that would love to see America and Israel wiped from the planet destroyed whatever credibility she ever had.
In this case it really is the messenger that needs to be shot. It's a shame it happened to King first. Come back when you have a sane argument.
Well said. I also find it interesting that "Mr. Anonymous" doesn't have the backbone to sign in under his blog name. I guess he's afraid of debating factual information. Like most liberals.
Cindy is such a fraud.
Dear "Mr. Anonymous",
Will you by protesting the "occupation" of New Orleans anytime soon? The left screams about a lack of a response from the feds in the wake of hurricane Katrina but when there is a response, a response that was NO SLOWER than any other disaster response, now it's considered an occupation??? What gives? Do you hate everything military? Oh, by the way, once we pulled out of SE Asia, these lovely communist regimes instituted a cleansing that was directly responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people. Something that the left always conveniently fails to discuss. History will show how wrong and disgusting the libs truly are! Get your facts straight, moron!
> There's also a difference in the
> support base of the two.
Really? The kind of people who accused MLK of being a communist and of being supported by everyone under the sun, sound just like you. Just like you.
> But, have a look at only some of the
> supporters and doners behind this
> terrorist and Palestinian lover:
You obviously didn't listen to the speech. What do you think Martin Luther King would have had to say about Palestinians?
Terrorist? Sorry to dissappoint you. But *you* are just another hate blogger.
And by the way, I love Palestinians and Israelis.
> a response that was NO SLOWER than any
> other disaster response
Sorry, I think I'll ignore you and go with George Bush on that one.
Ahh, the usual liberal barbs come flying... Racist, hateful, bigot. I don't need to go on. Back up your arguments with undisputed facts, and I may show you respect. Right now you show ignorance with lack of substance in your arguments and name calling.
Try answering any of the observations and situations placed before you with facts. You did not, so let me help you. I'm a compassionate conservative, don'cha know, and I just love helping people.
First, learn your history. You seem to have forgotten much. There is a difference between King supporters, and those who follow Shee-thing.
King: Churches of many faiths, people of many colors, and people of many opinions. But the one characteristic all had in common was a desire for everyone to enjoy freedom. I believe that his vision applied to the world, as well as the U.S.
She-thing: Some of the more nutty groups that have supported Shee-thing are The Workers Solidarity Movement: also known as Communists, Code Pink, American Nazis, and the KKK. Just one little story:
http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=350/lmore-350
Something tells me Dr. King would have serious problems with the last two groups.
I don't happen to see a unity factor, or connection between Shee-thing and King with these support groups. Do you? If so, please point it out.
You also seem to be taking quite a bit of Dr. King's speech out of context when compared to shee-thing and her rants.
You mean to tell me when Shee-thing says... "If George Bush believes his rhetoric and his bullshit, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free?"
...you believe Dr. King would have agreed to voice a rant such as this as well?
Ask the people of Afghanistan who voted today if they believe their lives will be better when compared to what they had under Taliban rule. Take it farther and ask the Germans from WW2 after being liberated from a totalitarian government, the thousands of Vietnamese who fled to America when the U.S. pulled out, the Russians when communism fell, the Iraqi people who were finally allowed to vote, or the Cambodians... Well, you can't do that since several million were slaughtered under the communist Pol Pot regime. Maybe we have a chance for some redemption in taking out Sadam. He's already killed thousands of his own people, so maybe this can be a turning point in Mid-East rule.
You cannot say King and Shee-thing are some soul mates. If so, I offer Dr. King's "I Have A Dream" speech. Here's some homework for you: Read it, compare it to Shee-thing's words of wisdom, then come back and tell me Shee-thing and Dr. King voice the same thoughts on politics.
Something tells me that will not happen.
For additional reading I offer Shee-thing at her finest:
http://groups.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en
compare any of the above to Dr. King and his Vietnam speech:
http://www.africanamericans.com/MLKjrBeyondVietnam.htm
Just a snippet:
"Perhaps a more tragic recognition of reality took place when it became clear to me that the war was doing far more than devastating the hopes of the poor at home. It was sending their sons and their brothers and their husbands to fight and to die in extraordinarily high proportions relative to the rest of the population. We were taking the black young men who had been crippled by our society and sending them eight thousand miles away to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia which they had not found in southwest Georgia and East Harlem."
Dr. King clearly implies the difference between the have's and have not's, and the sacrifices made by men whos only other option was to run to Canada, and what he believes is a war that unfairly harms the underclass.
Ya still think there's not a difference in then and now? No? How about the selective service factor which is what Dr. King is speaking about. Shee-thing's son Casey actually joined the military freely. I think that pisses Shee-thing off more than anything else. Trying to equate her to Dr. King's Vietnam speech is a losing argument.
I know this speech very well, and could go through it, dissecting line after line to compare to events today. But why bother? You'd get bored and possibly start calling me an evil, hateful human. So, instead, I offer to answer the questions you posed to me, even if you will not reciprocate in kind.
>Really? The kind of people who >accused MLK of being a communist >and of being supported by >everyone under the sun, sound >just like you. Just like you.
If you can show me where I have called Shee-thing or King a communist, I'll buy you dinner. I respect Shee-thing for her beliefs, and fully support her right to do so, but I also know that she's a nut being led around to photo ops, and speeches by her lefty handlers. Being a cause celebre, she now has no control over her actions. That is witnessed in her statements concerning her views as a product to be used. She's just a sad waste of human flesh, and honestly, I'm tired of looking at her.
>You obviously didn't listen to >the speech. What do you think >Martin Luther King would have had >to say about Palestinians?
Bounce up several paragraphs or read this one and you'll have your answer. I believe Dr. King would have been shocked and outraged that some group would still be around in 2005 that wanted Israel and the Jews destroyed. It kind of defeats the point of his message. Ya know?
>Terrorist? Sorry to disappoint >you. But *you* are just another >hate blogger.
>And by the way, I love >Palestinians and Israelis.
I'm sorry to hear you are a lover of both Israelis and Palestinians (that's a cotradiction in itself) since the bottom line of the Palestinian leadership has always been to destroy Israel:
Palestinian groups that support and carry out acts of political violence include Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Abu Nidal Organization, all of which are listed as terrorist organizations by the United States and the European Union.
Funny how so many groups can openly parade around, and Palestinian authorities never did, and still do not do anything about it. What amazes me is the restraint Israel has shown in the past. In all honesty I believe Dr. King would have been disgusted with people using bombs strapped to themselves or in vehicles to kill Jews, or anyone else who didn't happen to be of an islamic bent.
Seems to me that plastique packed up your ass and bomb belts is not exactly the way Dr. King would have done it according to his Vietnam speech, but who can say? Maybe, and God knows I hope not, King would have turned out to be a drooling race-baiter like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. But from what I know of the man, I doubt that.
Reply to this if you want, I'm done tearing your views apart.
Dear Mr. Anonymous,
For a better understanding of the time frames and logistics of a federal response to a natural disaster, please see my previous post "Federal Response Slow?". Also, emotional name calling does not constitute a factual argument, regardless of what your buddies at the D.U. may tell you. One last comment, Comparing Sheehan to MLK really exposes your ignorance. Come to think of it, I think this will be the subject of my next post. Thanks for the material!
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